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  • Topic: challenges on the site
  • Started by ausumx Jul 27, 2008 at 4:27 pm
  • Last post by Flowerlady Aug 28, 2008 at 8:40 am
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  1. #21 Jul 27, 2008 at 4:27 pm

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    Originally posted by mohrt  If anyone has ideas how to make challenges work better, we'd like to hear them! Although there is a lot of discontent about them, they do generate a large portion of traffic on the site. If we just got rid of them, there would be a lot more discontent. (we tried it once.)


    I think you should have a group challenge section, you can only challenge or be challenged if your in a group. the group should not be any larger then say 20 or 30
    people per group you must prove you own your ride or you cant join the group.
    that way if you dont want to play the game, dont join a group and maybe have a point
    spread. (something like that other site smile image ) oh yea one more thing you can only vote
    if your in a group and only be in one group at a time if you leave you have to wait 30 days to join an other! tongue image
     

     

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    Edited Jul 27, 2008 at 4:56 pm

  2. #22 Jul 27, 2008 at 10:34 pm

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    idea image Some good ideas coming out here, i thought the ideas had died.
     

     

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  3. #23 Jul 28, 2008 at 4:48 pm

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    AMEN! WELL SAID KENNY
     

     

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  4. #24 Jul 28, 2008 at 5:15 pm

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    Best thing if they cant fix it is for people who dont agree with how its going and dont like to be beat is DONT PLAY.


    This is like a group of thugs that hang out at the public park. If you don't like getting beat up, then just don't go to the park, right?

    Challenges would be awesome if the group mentality didn't exist, and the people honestly voted on the cars themselves, just as you would at a car show. You don't size up the car owner and vote by who he knows. That is what the intention was when it was designed.

    OTOH, this isn't an easy thing to solve online. You try to squash one problem, and other problems present themselves. I like the appointed judges idea, but I just don't see how that would work. As soon as judges make some decisions someone doesn't like, another uproar will start, protesting that the whole thing is unfair.
     

     

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  5. #25 Jul 28, 2008 at 8:49 pm

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    Challenges would be awesome if the group mentality didn't exist, and the people honestly voted on the cars themselves, just as you would at a car show. You don't size up the car owner and vote by who he knows. That is what the intention was when it was designed.


    Its funny you put it like that cause I brought my truck for a show on Oahu and as soon as the judges found out I was from Kauai, I didnt even place, I got beat out by a truck that looked liked it wasnt washed in 2 months and another that was lowered with spinning hubcaps!

    On another note when I took my truck to Maui for a show I took 1st in full size and best of show BUT.............. the judges at that show were from the mainland and wernt biased to locals because they were from the mainland.

    My point is that people will usually take care of who they know over who they dont, thats what friendship usually boils down to.
     

     

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  6. #26 Jul 28, 2008 at 9:43 pm

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    I don't know if Hawaiian cars shows would be anywhere near the norm, but in the midwest the judges could care less about who you are or where you're from. It's about the cars.
     

     

    Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you.
  7. #27 Jul 28, 2008 at 10:48 pm

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    I didn't know that groups were for voting challenges I Thought groups were for people of the same taste in cars could get together in forums and talk about their cars and learn info from other members and things like that.
    I joined a challenge group to learn their side of the challenges and what i learned was that no one else votes on the challenges. there is about 40 people on here that vote regularly and they control all the challenges.
    What happens is when some one joins they are bombarded by challenges from these 40 people with about 5 cars apiece and they accept challenges they think they should win and two days latter they are getting their ass kicked in all challenges
    so they quit.
    they get gun shy and wont accept any challenges from anyone. they would like to compete but they feel the rules aren't fair. and as long as this is allowed to happen their not fair.
    the other problem i see is that when they accept a challenge they only vote on their challenge and no one else's if they do start voting on all the challenges then the challenge group invites them in and recruits them and they emediately begin winning and the group has a new member
    thats why i say that people should have to vote on a certain number of challenges before they can accept a challenge this would force people to vote and would lead to a leveler playing field
    if someone joins and gets hit with 5 challenges right off the bat then they have to vote on 10 challenge for each one they want to accept then thats 50 votes out there to help overcome the 40 votes from the group
    and if you do this i believe a lot oi the people that want to challenge but wont because of the groups will go back to challenging thus adding more votes to help level the playing field till the challenge groups finally leave or break up.
    I went to a car show in Ruston La. this summer in all i spent over $300.00 by time i was back home and i didn't mind not winning but there were a lot of great cars there that didn't win because of the good ole boy judging and picking all their friends cars if you ever go to a show like that then you want go back. right now that is what we have her on motortopia is good ole boys voting all their friends and passing over some really great cars.
    The show our club puts on has drive through judging and the same judges judge all cars entered into the show in two days i'm president of the club and i don't know any of the judges we have one couple responsible for bringing in the judges from out of town and putting them up in a motel away from the car people
    we do not enter our club cars in the show we don't want someone driveing all the way from texas in a hot rod to come to our show just to have a local car win i promise you that won't happen.
    We try to be as fair as we can on judging and its an open show just like on here cars trucks bikes hot rods all years and makes in all we give out over 150 trophy's but we have people coming back year after year and some have past show winners that don't even get their cars judged because they just like coming to our show because there's no bickering about the judges or anything they always have a good time
    this is what motortopia has to do is get control of the good ole boys and replace them with some sort of fair playing field and get the people back involved in challenges.
    I would also like you to add classes to our cars we could put the class for the car when we add a car and if i have a muscle car i could find other muscle cars easier.
    i hope i havent overstepped my boundary's here
    Roger
     

     

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    Edited Jul 29, 2008 at 6:11 pm

  8. #28 Aug 8, 2008 at 10:46 am

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    You may have seen my comment on BADDAWG's blog post about challenges. What I'm doing here is summarizing the ideas we have heard so far about ways to improve challenges, so we can continue discussion on them. If we can identify some ideas that everyone thinks has potential, we can start new discussions to talk about them more in-depth. So, here we go:

    * Put some restrictions on who can participate in challenges, such as you can’t participate in a challenge until you have voted on 25 challenges; if you want to challenge two cars, you have to have voted in at least 50 challenges; etc.

    * Make it so you have to “opt in” to challenges instead of “opt out” like it is now when you add a vehicle to Motortopia. This may help the new members out by not having them get bombarded by challenge requests when they first sign up.

    * Create “group challenges” where you must be a member of a group to participate in those challenges, and limit groups to 20 or 30 people. You have to prove you own your ride to join the group. You can only be in one group at a time, and if you leave a group you have to wait 30 days to join another. In essence, a special type of “challenge group” would be created on the site.

    * Remove the challenge stats for people’s garages, so there are no win/loss records for anyone.

    * Provide more options in voting -- assuming this means more than just “performance”, “style” and “overall”?

    * Provide less options in voting -- you just choose one car or the other.

    * implement a judging system, so there are official judges somehow involved in challenges.

    * Add classes to challenges. You must classify your car, and you can only challenge other people in the same class maybe?

    * Turn off comments on challenges

    * Replace “head to head” challenges with something more like a car show, with classes, etc. Maybe a monthly “car show” where you enter one of your cars, in classes, just like a real-life car show, and there are people’s choice awards and official judges.

    If I've missed any or there are any more ideas, please post them! Also, start discussing which ideas you think have some potential.

    Thanks everyone!
     

     

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  9. #29 Aug 8, 2008 at 12:06 pm

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    The challenges was never about cars. It's always been about popularity contests. If you want proof of this look through my challenges. I have 3 wins and over 40 losses. I own an 11 second Mitsubishi Evolution.


    Watch this video if you think my car is junk


    http://media..../TurboTrix20g
     

     

  10. #30 Aug 9, 2008 at 8:26 am

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    Originally posted by BADDAWG  This will only work if we talk about the Future and forget the Past , I think we should have about 10 people and the moderators talk in a special forum about all the ideas and try to fix the challenges as much as possible .

    The 10 people should be from all sides and picked by moderators . They can gather ideas from all groups on site and bring to discussion . my .02

    DAWG



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