Cars > Challenges > “Turbo Bird” Vs “Black Magic”
1991 Pontiac Firebird
“Turbo Bird”
1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Clone
“Black Magic”
Head to Head
About “Turbo Bird”
This is a 91 Firebird with a modified 87 buick grand national motor, bigger turbo, fmic, dana 60, and spohn suspension. Check mods for more details.
About “Black Magic”
Found this car for sale at a car show in Joliet IL, and my wife talked me into buying it. It's the 4th Thirdgen Camaro I've owned. When I bought this car is had 15x8 rims in the rear and 14x7's up front, and the exhaust consisted of headers straight out to two 40 series Flowmaster mufflers and no tailpipes. You couldn't hear the person in the passenger seat while driving down the road, not to mention the spark show it gave off when it hit any bumps.
Specs for “Turbo Bird”
Modified 3.8L Grand National motor.
Pro-built 700r4
Dana 60 rear
Exterior
-ASCD Fiberglass Ram Air Hood
-16x8 Black Crosslace Rims
-91-92 Formula Spoiler
Interior
-APillar w/ 30psi AutoMeter Boost Gauge and Trans Temp.
-ScanMaster II
-Greddy ProFec B Spec II Boost Controller
Engine
-Engine Built by Automotive Machine in Fraser, Michigan
-Precision GT67 Turbocharger (GT6776S)
-Custom FMIC (StenodPerformance.com)
-212/212 Roller Cam (COMP Cams Roller Conversion)
-T&D Rocker Shaft setup
-Billet Center / Front Main Caps
-Ported/Polished/Decked Stock Iron Heads
-Port Matched Intake (Thermal Coated)
-Diamond Forged Pistons (.020) (Thermal Coated)
-Eagle ESP H-Beam forged rods
-High Volume Front Timing Cover
-TIAL 50mm BOV
-LT1 Starter
-ARP Bolts / Studs
-160 Thermostat
Fuel / Air
-AlkyControl Alcohol Injection System (This spring!)
-Walbro 340 w/ Hotwire Kit
-Accufab 65mm Throttle Body / Plenum
-RJC Powerplate
-72lb Seimens Injectors
-LS1 Maf w/ Translator +
-Custom Chip / Tuning from Mike @ Fullthrottlespeed.com
-BBK CAI
-Billet AFPR
-BeCool Radiator
Suspension / Brakes
-Spohn Sway Bars
-Spohn Adj. Torque Arm
-Spohn Adj. Panhard Bar
-Spohn Front End Rebuild Kit
-KYB Gas-a-just shocks / GR2 Struts (air bags in the rear soon)
-Spohn Subframe Connectors
-Lakewood LCA's
-Eibach Pro Kit Spring
-255/50/ZR16 Kumho ECSTA Supra 712's in front
-255/50/16 M/T Street DR in the rear
-Hawk HPS Front/Rear Brake Pads
-Rear Ls1 brake's.
Drivetrain
-Strange Engineering Dana 60 w/ 3.54's
-Pro-Built 700r4
-CK Performance 10 1/2" 3500 Stall
-B&M Racing Trans Cooler
-Polyurethane Mount
-TransGo Shift Kit
-Heavy Duty Driveshaft from Stenod Performance
Exhaust
-Coated Stock 87 Grand National Headers (by QC Coatings)
-Custom Terry Houston 3" Downpipe (Thanks to Mike Mizzi and Stenod Performance)
-Custom 3" Cat-back w/ Stainless Steel DynoMax Ultra Flo Series Muffler
-3" Electric Cut-Out
-Deleted Cat
Specs for “Black Magic”
Originally a Blue V6 Camaro.
Factory Options for “Turbo Bird”
No factory options listed.
Factory Options for “Black Magic”
About the only factory options left are the headlights and turn signals. Even the windshield wipers are gone!
Mods for “Turbo Bird”
Exterior
-ASCD Fiberglass Ram Air Hood
-16x8 Black Crosslace Rims
-91-92 Formula Spoiler
Interior
-APillar w/ 30psi AutoMeter Boost Gauge and Trans Temp.
-ScanMaster II
-Greddy ProFec B Spec II Boost Controller
Engine
-Engine Built by Automotive Machine in Fraser, Michigan
-Precision GT67 Turbocharger (GT6776S)
-Custom FMIC (StenodPerformance.com)
-212/212 Roller Cam (COMP Cams Roller Conversion)
-T&D Rocker Shaft setup
-Billet Center / Front Main Caps
-Ported/Polished/Decked Stock Iron Heads
-Port Matched Intake (Thermal Coated)
-Diamond Forged Pistons (.020) (Thermal Coated)
-Eagle ESP H-Beam forged rods
-High Volume Front Timing Cover
-TIAL 50mm BOV
-LT1 Starter
-ARP Bolts / Studs
-160 Thermostat
Fuel / Air
-AlkyControl Alcohol Injection System (This spring!)
-Walbro 340 w/ Hotwire Kit
-Accufab 65mm Throttle Body / Plenum
-RJC Powerplate
-72lb Seimens Injectors
-LS1 Maf w/ Translator +
-Custom Chip / Tuning from Mike @ Fullthrottlespeed.com
-BBK CAI
-Billet AFPR
-BeCool Radiator
Suspension / Brakes
-Spohn Sway Bars
-Spohn Adj. Torque Arm
-Spohn Adj. Panhard Bar
-Spohn Front End Rebuild Kit
-KYB Gas-a-just shocks / GR2 Struts (air bags in the rear soon)
-Spohn Subframe Connectors
-Lakewood LCA's
-Eibach Pro Kit Spring
-255/50/ZR16 Kumho ECSTA Supra 712's in front
-255/50/16 M/T Street DR in the rear
-Hawk HPS Front/Rear Brake Pads
-Rear Ls1 brake's.
Drivetrain
-Strange Engineering Dana 60 w/ 3.54's
-Pro-Built 700r4
-CK Performance 10 1/2" 3500 Stall
-B&M Racing Trans Cooler
-Polyurethane Mount
-TransGo Shift Kit
-Heavy Duty Driveshaft from Stenod Performance
Exhaust
-Coated Stock 87 Grand National Headers (by QC Coatings)
-Custom Terry Houston 3" Downpipe (Thanks to Mike Mizzi and Stenod Performance)
-Custom 3" Cat-back w/ Stainless Steel DynoMax Ultra Flo Series Muffler
-3" Electric Cut-Out
-Deleted Cat
Mods for “Black Magic”
Engine:
350 from a 70 Chevelle, 650 CFM Edelbrock Carb, Edelbrock performer intake, MSD Distributor, MSD Blaster Coil, MSD 6a ignition, K&N Air filter with Extreme lid.
Exhaust:
Long tube headers connected to 3" straight pipe to a 80 series Flowmaster with 4" chrome tips.
Driveline:
Trans & rear end from a 90 IROC, with 4.10 gears & posi unit fitted in the rear. Drilled & Slotted rotors up front with stock drums out back. Eibach Sportline lowering springs and KYB GR2 struts & shocks.
Interior:
Black cloth seats from a thirdgen Pontiac. B&M hammer shifter fitted in the stock console, 5" Autometer Tach, with shift light, stuffed into the dash in it's stock location. Pillar mount with Autometer water temp & oil pressure gauges mounted. RCI racing harnesses mounted on both front seats, with stock seat belts in the rear. Pioneer head unit with Rockford Fosgate 6x9's in back, and Boston Acoustic 4x6's under the dash.
Appearance
Black base coat with racing stripes, painted in the Mystic paint, and a stripe down each side of the car. Stern 18" wheels mounted on all 4 corners, with 245/40/18 Nexxan's mounted. 4" Harwood cowl hood and all ground effects and badges from a 92 Z28. New Billet grille installed up front, fresh window tinting (5% on the rear window and 35% on the sides).
To Do List:
Racing harness for rear seats, new sport seats for the front, car alarm and new audio system.
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| Points for Turbo Bird | Total Votes | Points for Black Magic |
|---|---|---|
| 33 | 16 | 47 |
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