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Cars > Challenges > “The Red Dragon” Vs “My Baby”

 

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M–28

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ccz2887

M–29
Marathon, New York
United States

 

1976 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am

“The Red Dragon”

1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z28

“My Baby”

 
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About “The Red Dragon”

This is my pride and joy: My 1976 Pontiac Trans Am. My dad bought it as a "Father and Son" project about three years ago.The car has the original "numbers matching" 400 engine & it runs & drives great. The 4-speed manual transmission shifts nicely, the car always starts for me & I feel confident driving it anywhere.

There are no rust or dents, and there have never been any. - It's just a very nice clean car that has been kept as original as possible, except that the interior has been reupholstered, and about 2 years ago my dad and I repainted the car the original color with the help of a friend of his in the restoration business and had a brand new set of decals put on. Also I had a brand new exhaust system put on. My dad and I did a lot of the work on it ourselves, learning as we went along. He surprised me by giving it to me as a college graduation present last spring.

About “My Baby”

Oh boy the story behind this one. Well it was spring 2005 and I was cruisin around ebay and I had a little bit of money in the bank to piss away so I figured well I'll see what the camaros are goin for. More importantly the IROCs. This one was basically a luck of the draw. I found her in Oneida NY for (when it was all said and done) 1700 bucks, but she needed some serious help. The body was in some pretty rough shape underneath. For 1700 bucks though and a camaro, but not just any run of the mill camaro an IROC-Z. I was just nicely born in 85 when they came out, but i'm sure some you older guys and gals on here remebered the buzz about the new camaro. Just like the buzz right now about the 2009 LS2 450 horse beast chevy will be releasing on the streets. Well from the research I've done and what I have been told I've learned that the IROCs were the car that every 16-18 year old high school kid dreamed about having. And just to track off on a different note for a second for those of you that dont know what IROC stands for its "the International Race Of Champions". Well knowing this and remembering seeing one in Cortland NY one day when i was about 9 or 10 I decided right there if I ever got the chance of having one I'd grab it in a heart beat. Needless to say 11-12 years later I got one. And I'll be the first to say she ain't no SEMA award winner. She has her flaws, I mean for God's sake she's gonna be 21 in July and been in central NY all of her life. Just by looking at the floor in her, she has definitely seen a salty winter or two (not since I've had her though). Ok, 1700 bucks is what i got the car for after 18 layers of bulls*#t from the seller (who was not the owner). When I got her the crossmember mount to the trany on the left side was completely gone (rotted out) and the holes in the floor were very unsightly. So with help from my dad we welded up the floor and built a whole new trany mount for it, and very recently I just completed the rear patch work. This is not going to stay that way, it will be fixed right I just cant afford it right now. What can I say its got 145k miles on it. But it still runs beautifully, fires the first time. She has some oil burn off when it first starts but that is GM, just about every single GM small block V8 that I know of after about 90k-120k the valve seals in the heads start wearin and lets oil drain into the engine, but after it starts it burns off and its fine. My plans for this are to keep it mainly stock for the most part maybe some minor hp jumps and some other performance wise modifications but nothing outrageous. They only made about 194k of these in the 5 years Chevy ran 'em and take away the ones that have been wrecked, fire damage, rusted out, stolen you might be lookin at maybe, and I mean maybe half of them left. So the more stock I keep it the more that value jumps up. I might jump to a 350 TPI instead of a 305 but no final decision has been made in that area. If anyone has any questions about my particular piece of history just ask me. Or you can just go to any search engine and type in IROC-Z Camaro and you get a more results and info on it then you could ever imagine. The best thing is just ask an IROC owner near you and I'm sure like me they have done they're research, if not THEY NEED TO! Well drop a line to me and I can tell ya more about her and the Beretta too if ya want. Just ask...

 

Specs for “The Red Dragon”

Rebuilt and warmed-over, numbers matching Pontiac 400 engine
4-speed stick
0-60 in about 4.5 seconds
About 14 flat in the 1/4 @ 100+/-
Dual exhausts without catalysts (Please don't tell the state about that!)

Specs for “My Baby”

Engine: 305ci TPI 5.0L V8 ~220hp and ~300ft. lbs. of torque (she's 20 years old, could be less due to bein an old engine)
Trans: 700R4 4 speed automatic OD
RWD 3.73 Posi rear
IROC suspension from factory
Falkin 245/50/ZR16 Ziexs
Dual exhaust (from Muffler)
Dynomax perfomance Muffler
4" tips out back of car (put on today 5/22/08)
front disc brakes/rear drums
Sound system: JVC Kamelion head unit, Legacy 2.5 Farad capacitor, Blue Pyramid 1000w 4.1 channel amp pushing 2 12" Audiobahn subs 400w a piece. Then 2 6x9 (cant remeber brand jensons maybe?) also 400w a piece...the subs, capacitor and amp arent in the car yet due to a new box needs to be fabricated (to fit the rear seat section), and wires need to be run under the carpet.

I've had it to 130mph, not really sure if it would go any faster due to cops liking I81. But I have heard of these things hitting 150-160 (with motor modifications and normally with the 350).

 

Factory Options for “The Red Dragon”

Not much - she's pretty basic. NO A/C!

Factory Options for “My Baby”

IROC suspension package (lowers the IROC a 1/2 inch than the Z28, improves corning ability and handling and acceleration compared to that of the Z28)
Factory installed fog lights in intake vents in front (exclusive to IROCs from factory in which i accidently broke one of them when I was in school, moronic me)
305 TPI/700r4 4 spd auto
t-tops
dual tailpipes
16" alloy 5 spoke rims
145mph speedo 7000 tach (145 speedo also exclusive to IROC-Z only)
power windows
power rear hatch

 

Mods for “The Red Dragon”

The usual internal mods in the engine when it was rebuilt and a modern sound system in the original mounting holes - NO CUTTING!

Mods for “My Baby”

Not really sure if anything has been done internally to the car, I'm the 3rd owner to it so it could be possible but unlikely, I haven't been able to look and see but this is what i do know:
K&N dual air cleners
Dynamax Performance muffler
4" Chrome tailpipes (I installed, but pictures taken before hand)
mirrored window tint half way up pass. and driv. side windows

Future mods are going to be a 383 stroker TPI, oh yeah 383 stroker TPI.....

 

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