Before there where challenge groups we had groups of friends that did the same thing and that started the challenge groups, as I see it. Getting rid of the groups I don't think is the answer, it will always be one sided. Even a local car shows you will get a club voteing for their members to win trophies, the only way this is handled is by judges. If you make a group of imparcle judges to do the voting on challenges then the challenges maybe more fair. Making it more of a car show for a week, the judges deciding the number one car for the week and feature the car the next week. This would be a lot of work on the part of the judges and the people entering, they would have to input a lot if details/pics on their cars. It would mean alot more to the winners have bettered a group of peers from all over the world judgeing. Look at the Motortopia calendar contest awsome cars came out of that, at the end of the year another vote for the top 12 of the weekly could be judged into a calendar. This is somoe thing that Motortopia would have to ok, but would, I thinkd help the site grow haveing a world showing of cars. My 2 cents and we know how much 2 cents is worth now days. John B
The need for is growing and spring is time to bring out the BARR"S AM for the shake down run, hope all of you are ready as I am.