Topic: Pontiac phoenix

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  • ufab2’s Profile Photo
    Dec 3, 2008 at 11:59 pm
    I have just bought a 1980 Pontiac Phoenix LJ convertible. I have not been able to find anything on this car it is in mint condition and has only 49k miles. I was told that there were only two of these made. I was wondering if anyone could help me with this.


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    Dec 4, 2008 at 6:06 pm
    Ah, who can forget the days of "job shop convertibles"?!

    When GM (and everyone else) decided the buying public didn't want convertibles any longer, the avenue was opened for indenendent shops whacking the tops off of cars. The best known was right up in the Detroit area called ASC, which stood for American Sunroof Corporation. A search of that company might produce some help documenting their conversions; and this one,if yhey did it.

    ASC actually did some good work, but even on their best days, none of these shops were up to standards of the manufacturer-- if you can believe that! In those days "fit-and-finish" wasn't on the top of the list.

    More than likely,the Phoenix this person has is in fact very rare, and perhaps even just two of them made... nobody else probably wanted one.

    This second year of this Phoenix design (the '79 4-door looked pretty much like the '80 2-door) was a pretty good selling little car. Especially the rather silly looking 4-door with the slanted back hatch-- now we know where the old AMC Gremlin dies went to!! Not really.

    Hope this helps smile image smile image


  • Hammer76’s Profile Photo
    Dec 5, 2008 at 6:46 pm

    There is a resource of information called Pontiac Historical Services. If you provide them with the VIN number of your car they will, for a fee, send you all the information regarding you car; including what options were included from the production line for your exact car. For an additional fee they will send you a reproduction of the window sticker. GO here to order the package .

    Secondly, the GM plant used to put the original build sheet behind the back seat of the car, under one of the front seats, or even one under the gas tank. This buildsheet is like gold for Pontiac owners as this indicates the exact options that were included in building the car as well. If this is a 4 door car check behind the back seat for this sheet, or if you have a two door try under the drivers seat in the mesh area underneath.

    I hope this helps but with the PHS documentation it will tell you if the car is a rare FACTORY convertible or a Aftermarket convertible. PHS is your proof my friend.



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